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What's up with US women?

(Or, why "The Rules" are "Ridiculous". But we all knew that.)

(Thanks to [livejournal.com profile] strwbrylv for the link. :)

Date: 2002-08-26 09:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jestf14.livejournal.com
I've been saying that very same thing for years now.

Date: 2002-08-26 12:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shariperkins.livejournal.com
This is bullshit one-oh-one!

Date: 2002-08-26 12:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skreidle.livejournal.com
The sad thing, though, is that there are plenty of women who've been following these Rules for years and years.. what's worse is the published books of "The Rules", and the revised online version of the same. They're terrible, really.. work quite well at keeping happy couples apart.

Date: 2002-08-26 01:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skamille.livejournal.com
The Rules is sooo awful. A friend got me a copy as a joke for a birthday once. Soo bad.
They *do*, however have a couple decent points. The whole "be your own unique person" thing is always good advice. As is "don't date someone for longer than 2 years if no engagement is forthcoming" (assuming getting married is what you're looking for). But that whole not splitting costs for dates, not returning phone calls, not sleeping with him until 4 weeks in, soooo stupid.

Date: 2002-08-26 01:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skreidle.livejournal.com
Sounds like it.. I'm a big fan of "play it by ear, do what seems reasonable to both of you".

Date: 2002-08-26 03:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] six2.livejournal.com
That's what I say and I've been really happy and really lucky for 4 years (as of tommorrow).

And I'm not engaged yet, but that doesn't seem to be a problem for either of us -- we want to be able to have a nice wedding and I want to be able to get a nice engagement ring, but we can't afford that right now. And I think that's okay, because that doesn't mean we're not committed to each other.

Date: 2002-08-26 07:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skreidle.livejournal.com
Sounds like you've done quite well for yourselves.. congratulations and good luck :)

Re:

Date: 2002-08-26 08:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] six2.livejournal.com
Well thank ya, I think it helps to have a positive attitude.

Date: 2002-08-26 08:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xiaoshira.livejournal.com
So am I, but there are some overly emotional women like myself that probably depend on these rules not because they believe in them, but as a kind of a "check" so they don't get obsessive. These women often overdo it though, as it sounds like the one in the article did :)

Date: 2002-08-26 03:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] r-transpose-p.livejournal.com
Everything I read about male <--> female dating behavior that strikes me as bizzare and evokes a "I don't know anyone who does that!" (or "I don't know any who does that other then Scott R") eventually ends with "In New York City..."

I've decided NYC is just fucked up datingwise. And in completely different ways from the west coast. Out west, women buy men coffee the next morning, a woman with a career is a catch and its Charles Manson / Zodiac Killer types that keep women shy, not a silly book (see skreidle's quoted post of mine -- replace Pointland with an unnamed West Coast city near a tech capital)

From what I've read about NYC, the gender imbalance is backwards of "unnamed West Coast city", noone wants to date successful women, and every woman reads and follows "The Rules" What a strange and alien land.

Date: 2002-08-26 03:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] r-transpose-p.livejournal.com
This probably reveals something about my taste in women, but everyone i've dated who's lived for a long time in Colorado has been awesome. 10x more so then residents of "unnamed west coast city" or "hardass engineers at Computer Military University"

I'm extrapolating from 2 examples, but they were both totally smart, take change Annie-Oakley-esque science types.

I should move to Boulder.

Date: 2002-08-26 05:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] r-transpose-p.livejournal.com
People who dump me don't count in these statistics :P

Date: 2002-08-26 07:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skreidle.livejournal.com
"totally smart, take-charge Annie-Oakley-esque science types"

..yeah, that sounds like my cousin Sarah, who lives in Boulder. :)
Wonder from whence this correlation springs?

Date: 2002-08-27 12:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skreidle.livejournal.com
Just as well I don't want to live in NYC anyhow, then. :)

Date: 2002-08-26 06:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xiaoshira.livejournal.com
Did you get this link from my post or do we both independently read the Guardian? If you read Guardian, what do you think of it? I only started reading it since I got here to China and only to have something to argue with my British friend about (such as this article) but it's kinda growing on me :), what's your take?

Date: 2002-08-26 06:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skreidle.livejournal.com
Erm.. sorry, forgot to give credit for the link (now present)--I got it from your post. Only read the Guardian when people post links to it :)

Date: 2002-08-26 08:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xiaoshira.livejournal.com
D'oh. Next question - do your friends often post from the Guardian? I'm getting more and more well-versed on British culture, now that I'm in China (weird statement as that is).

Date: 2002-08-26 08:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skreidle.livejournal.com
Only occasionally.. I have one friend who's natively British, some others who're just into the culture, I think.

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