Graa.

Sep. 20th, 2001 09:28 am
skreidle: (Default)
[personal profile] skreidle
Some people..

Someone in one of my communities was informing another person how to link to a graphic.. like so: <img src="http://www.wherever.com/files/picture.jpg" alt="">.

I offered this:
"Better, actually, would be something like this:

<img src="http://www.wherever.com/files/picture.jpg" width="width of the image" height="height of the image" alt="picture description">

That way, the web page knows what size the picture is, and can display the rest of the page more quickly/efficiently. Could drop the alt= bit altogether, if you had no text to attach to the picture. :)"

(Actually, I was even more specific--user gave an actual URL, I used that same URL, the size of that image (640x480) and some relevant alt text.)

Their reply was:

"That's too complicated! LOL I like the way I do it just fine :)"

*smacks forehead*
*smacks user*

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Ooh, and round 2!

> Too complicated? All I did was add 'width="xxx"' and 'height="yyy"'..
> which any graphics program (even Internet Explorer) can tell you about a
> picture.. and added some actual ALT text, since you already had the
> 'alt=""' with nothing in it.

> Believe me, it makes it much better for people looking at your picture
> on the web if you put in the width/height of the picture. (Oh, and those
> are the really simple things to add.. it can get a lot more complicated
> ;)

Their reply was:

Subject:

" Well...excuse me!!!!!!! I have not had any complaints before! Thanks for your advice, but I post one picture that I forgot to resize and now I am getting crap for it???? Geez! Lighten up buddy!"

...*throttles*

Anyone notice that what I've offered wasn't a complaint, nor did it have anything to do with resizing or giving crap, but was in fact advice?

Note: The user in question is in fact 30, despite sounding 14.

...Resolution: User acknowledges advice. *relief*

Date: 2001-09-20 07:05 am (UTC)
subbes: A line-drawing of a jar labelled "Brand's Essence of Chicken" (Default)
From: [personal profile] subbes
Morons.

Date: 2001-09-24 05:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skreidle.livejournal.com
Agreed. At least one of them. There must be more.. can we hunt them down and flay them?

Date: 2001-09-20 08:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alacrity.livejournal.com
Evidently HTML isn't as easy as it looks.... ;-)

Date: 2001-09-24 05:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skreidle.livejournal.com
Appaaaaarently not.

Date: 2001-09-20 08:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] damienden.livejournal.com
I will say, though, that alt should probably be encouraged more than dropped because its pretty easy and adds -something- to the image for those who either cannot or choose not to view images. On slow connections sometimes, I disable my images and then only load the ones that are really necessary -- alt tags make that easier.
I wonder where said user picked up that usage of alt, though.. do some publication progs throw in an empty alt sometimes?

Date: 2001-09-24 05:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skreidle.livejournal.com
I think the LJ client might throw in an empty alt.. yup, it does.

Date: 2001-09-21 02:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] six2.livejournal.com
Don't forget border="0" :)

Date: 2001-09-24 05:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skreidle.livejournal.com
Nah, I never put that in.. if my image is a link, I want that to be obvious.

Re:

Date: 2001-09-24 08:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] six2.livejournal.com
Then you put border="1" ... the default varies greatly from browser to browser. If you want a certain thing, you *must* specify it.

Date: 2001-09-27 07:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skreidle.livejournal.com
But in general, I don't really care if it has a border or not, or the size thereof..

Re:

Date: 2001-09-27 07:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] six2.livejournal.com
Yeah, but then I get to look at your dern pictures. :P

Date: 2001-09-27 09:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skreidle.livejournal.com
And how do they look, to you, if I don't specify a border size?

Date: 2001-09-28 04:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skreidle.livejournal.com
Works for me.. lets me know which ones I've visited recently.

Re:

Date: 2001-09-28 05:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] six2.livejournal.com
Which is fine. But this is what I see in my usual browser (Opera):

Opera is fully compliant with HTML standards.

Date: 2001-10-08 12:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skreidle.livejournal.com
Ah.. defaults to a zero border if unspecified?

Re:

Date: 2001-10-08 12:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] six2.livejournal.com
No standarization on default border size. Another place where w3c is slipping.

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